The Staying Free Podcast

In this episode, I talked with Meta Prime, a pseudonymous content creator who's committed to building systems grounded in truth and practical solutions. We dive deep into the fundamental question: how do we rebuild when trust in mainstream institutions has collapsed?
Meta Prime shares his personal journey, from recognizing the lies that shape our current society to crafting a new path forward. Is it possible to step away from a broken system without descending into chaos? And more importantly, what does it look like to live a meaningful life outside of those mainstream narratives?
We also explore the idea of parallel movements. How can people who’ve “woken up” build systems that are healthier, stronger, and free from the delusions of today’s world? This conversation is about much more than theories—Meta Prime offers real, actionable steps for anyone looking to move forward in a grounded, productive way.
If you’ve ever found yourself questioning where to put your trust and how to navigate a world that feels increasingly detached from reality, this conversation might give you a glimpse of what comes next.
Chapters
(00:03:19) - Introduction to Meta Prime(00:05:00) - Awakening and the "Parallel Movement" Vision(00:10:00) - Media Manipulation and the 2016 Red Pill Moment(00:20:00) - The Limits of Trying to Wake Everyone Up(00:25:00) - Content Creation as a Tool for Awakening(00:35:00) - The Role of Truth in Building Healthy Systems(00:40:00) - Distrust in Leaders: Elon, Trump, and the Tech Elite(00:50:00) - Online Personas vs. Authentic Builders(01:00:00) - Becoming Masters of Both Worlds(01:10:00) - The Spiritual Dimension and the Battle for Truth(01:20:00) - Moral Courage and Rejecting Modern Delusion(01:30:00) - Temperance, Anger, and Winning with Integrity(01:40:00) - Building Parallel Communities and Trust Networks(01:50:00) - Steps Toward a Resilient, Local Future
References from the episode
The Staying Free Podcast Music: Organic Bijou - Ooyy (Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmmGeT45OUg)
God, Truth, Revelation and Bitcoin: Exploring The Alchemy of Value ft. John Vallis [SFP069] (Link: https://www.stayingfreepod.com/e/sfp069_john_vallis/)
Guest Links
Meta Prime on X (Link: https://x.com/MetaPrime001)
Meta Prime on Substack (Link: https://substack.com/@metaprime001)
Meta Prime Website (Link: https://www.metaprime001.com/)
The MetaCast (Link: https://open.spotify.com/show/1JwXccxK2k0SGQ0aekBsNC)
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Parallel Mike

For this episode, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Hosshin, a yoga teacher with over three decades of spiritual exploration. He shared his journey of retreating from modern life to live in the Scottish wilderness, where he is building a personal sanctuary for deeper spiritual work. We delved into his belief that the heart acts as a bridge between the physical and spiritual realms, and how this connection brings clarity and healing in a world that often feels fractured.
Throughout our conversation, Hosshin spoke about his experiences growing up with unusual psychic phenomena, his decision to leave the hustle of city life, and the slow, intentional path that led him to the remote life he leads now. He also reflected on how larger events, like COVID, were a culmination of generational karma, and how we, as individuals, can navigate this through spiritual practice and inner work.
This is a discussion about finding meaning in chaos, seeking sovereignty, and discovering how our inner lives can shape the world we live in.
Chapters
(00:00:55) - Introduction(00:04:53) - Introducing Hoshin: A Life of Heart and Spirit(00:08:50) - Early Spiritual Experiences and Psychic Beginnings(00:21:10) - From the NHS to Yoga: Discovering HeartMind(00:30:20) - Visions of Lockdown and the Call to Retreat(00:35:40) - Building a Sanctuary in the Scottish Wilderness(00:45:30) - The Purpose of HeartMind and a Life of Service(00:50:00) - Navigating Darkness with Love and Courage(01:07:40) - Karma, Goodness, and the Collapse of Old Paradigms(01:17:50) - The Age of Darkness and the Path Within(01:23:30) - Ending the Game Inside Ourselves(01:28:00) - Awakening Beyond Fear and Division(01:36:30) - Maya, Lucid Dreaming, and the Nature of Consciousness(01:45:40) - True Sovereignty and the Power of the Heart(01:49:50) - Closing Words of Hope and Guidance
References from the show
#61- Restoring The Heart-Mind Connection with Hosshin on [Parallel Mike Podcast on Spotify] (Link: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5ThgHO3Q2Sp3MrARzsptVF)
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Parallel Mike

In a world where artificial intelligence challenges our deepest notions of freedom and control, the Staying Free Podcast welcomes back Guy Swann for a riveting discussion that pierces through the dystopian narratives often associated with AI.
What if AI could actually enhance individual sovereignty rather than strip it away? Guy, host of Bitcoin Audible and AI Unchained, challenges the prevailing fears within the freedom community, proposing a future where AI serves as a liberator rather than an oppressor. But can we trust this optimistic vision, or are we on the brink of surrendering to a new world order engineered by algorithms?
This episode dives deep into the open versus closed system debate, exploring whether decentralization can truly safeguard our liberties in the age of intelligent machines. Join us as we dissect the implications of AI on privacy, autonomy, and human agency, challenging you to reconsider everything you thought you knew about artificial intelligence.
 
Chapters
(00:00:00) - Introduction(00:03:20) - AI as a Tool for Individual Sovereignty(00:08:10) - Scaling Power: Open Source vs. Corporate AI(00:14:09) - Closing the Skills Gap: “Devs Who Can’t Code”(00:17:31) - Can Open Source AI Resist Centralisation?(00:25:00) - Open Protocols and the Future of Digital Freedom(00:35:23) - AI, Automation and the Evolution of Work(00:55:02) - Surveillance, Facial Recognition and Decentralisation(01:07:19) - Why Centralisation Fails: Decentralised Systems as Resilience(01:32:33) - Sound Money, Real Value and the Return to Basics(01:38:41) - Ancient Lessons and the Fragility of Complex Systems(01:43:55) - The Centralisation Trap and the Case for Open AI(01:49:04) - The Future: Self-Assembling AI Operating Systems
 
References from the show
Super Hacker George Hotz: I Can Make Your Car Drive Itself for Under $1,000 [Reason TV] (Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqdYbwY9vPU)
This Hacker Is Teaching a Smartphone App to Drive Your Car [Reason TV] (Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpUyL3IuULo)
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Guy Swann on X: (Link: https://twitter.com/TheGuySwann)
Bitcoin Audible: (Link: https://bitcoinaudible.com/)
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Parallel Mike

Dr. Will Tuttle is an influential author known for The World Peace Diet and Food for Freedom. We explored his philosophy on how veganism is intricately connected to freedom and the implications this has on both individual and societal levels. Dr. Tuttle, with his rich background in philosophy, humanities, and Zen Buddhism, shared insights on the often-overlooked link between our treatment of animals and the elusive pursuit of freedom. This discussion delved into how our actions, particularly the enslavement of animals, may reflect and influence the challenges we face in achieving true freedom. How do our choices impact our collective well-being? Is there a deeper connection between veganism and human liberation that we need to consider?
 
Chapters
(00:00:55) Introduction
(00:06:00) Welcoming Dr Will Tuttle & His Journey into Vegan Philosophy(00:09:15) - Early Life, Family Influence and Distrust of Authority(00:12:15) - Pilgrimage to the Communes & Awakening to Animal Liberation(00:15:38) - Becoming Vegan and Discovering Ancient Non‑Violent Traditions(00:17:44) - Vegan Advocacy Around the World & Freedom Through Compassion(00:26:31) - From 9/11 to COVID – Seeing Through Deception and Materialism(00:30:06) - Debunking Myths: Veganism vs “Global Agendas”(00:33:58) - Freedom as Responsibility and Moral Consistency(00:39:40) - Consensualism – Extending Libertarian Ethics to Animals(00:46:20) - Ethical Mirror Effect – How Our Actions Create Tyrants(00:53:25) - Vegan Movement Contradictions & Freedom Summit Revelations(01:00:01) - Truth Over Tactics – Rejecting Fear‑Based Messaging(01:03:10) - Ethical Veganism as the Only Consistent Path(01:06:14) - Transcending Activism Through Inner Transformation(01:13:00) - Materialism, Science and the Loss of Spiritual Freedom(01:17:07) - Spiritual Awakening as the True Revolution(01:18:45) - Closing Reflections & Dr Tuttle’s Resources
References from the show
Activists Pouring Milk In Shops Are FAKE Vegans | Debate: JonnyHodl Vs Tim Speers (Animal Rebellion) [David Ramms]
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Twitter: WillTuttlePhD
Website: www.worldpeacediet.com
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Parallel Mike

In this episode I welcome back libertarian author and former Member of the European Parliament, Godfrey Bloom. Godfrey shares his views on the decline of democratic and moralistic principles, and the current state of global politics.Bloom discusses his recent book tour in America, reflecting on the social and political degradation he perceives, particularly in urban areas compared to rural communities. The conversation also touches on the justice system and the ethical decline at higher levels of power. Bloom expresses concerns about the erosion of freedoms and the manipulation of public opinion through controlled narratives in media and politics.
Additionally, Bloom provides a critical analysis of ongoing conflicts in Israel, Palestine, Russia, and Ukraine, offering his perspective on the geopolitical strategies and historical contexts that shape these issues. He criticizes the influence of external powers in regional conflicts and questions the integrity of international alliances like NATO.
Throughout the episode, Bloom advocates for a return to more localized governance and greater individual freedoms, warning against the dangers of centralized power and the suppression of dissenting voices. His insights challenge listeners to reconsider the narratives presented by mainstream media and the state of current global affairs.
Chapters
(00:02:30) - Godfrey Bloom returns after his U.S. book tour(00:04:14) - Life in America: city decay and cultural decline(00:06:12) - Constitutional collapse and federal overreach(00:09:17) - Davos, globalism, and the erosion of democracy(00:10:23) - Media control, propaganda, and narrative uniformity(00:11:04) - The political class and moral bankruptcy(00:21:23) - The ideological capture of law and academia(00:28:00) - How language control enables modern tyranny(00:34:53) - Gaza war, moral hypocrisy, and censorship(00:45:43) - Ukraine conflict, NATO expansion, and lost diplomacy
Guest Links
Twitter: @goddersbloom
Website: godfreybloom.uk
Facebook: facebook.com/godfreybloomofficial
Odysee: https://odysee.com/@GodfreyBloom:6
Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/GodfreyBloomOfficial
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Parallel Mike

In this episode, I welcome back Jordan Goldstein, a trail runner, coach, and teacher of ancient sport wisdom. Jordan shares his insights on holistic health, mindset transformation, and the integral role of physical activity in personal development. Drawing from his experiences, he emphasizes how sports can be a powerful tool for self-discovery and growth, not just physically but also mentally and spiritually.
Jordan discusses his philosophy of integrating body, mind, and spirit through physical endeavors, and how this holistic approach can lead to significant improvements in life satisfaction and purpose. He reflects on his journey from suffering health setbacks to using fitness as a catalyst for overcoming personal challenges and reshaping his life.
The conversation also covers the societal and cultural impacts of maintaining an active lifestyle and the broader implications for personal growth through disciplined physical training. Jordan's unique perspective offers a compelling narrative on the transformative power of sports and physical activity as vehicles for achieving a healthier, more fulfilled life.
Chapters
(00:00:59) - Introduction(00:02:55) - (Re)introduction to Jordan Goldstein(00:06:23) - Rediscovering the Body as a Teacher(00:13:39) - Identity, Ego, and the Death of Play(00:22:59) - Society’s War on Passion and Purpose(00:30:17) - The Mind-Body-Spirit Connection(00:37:00) - Suffering, Discipline, and Meaning(00:56:31) - The Artistry of Athletic Expression(01:06:52) - Blending Objectivity with Subjective Fulfilment(01:14:02) - Facing Discomfort and Standing for Principles(01:19:02) - Sport, Ageing, and Evolving Identities(01:25:41) - Humility, Growth, and The Joy of Being a Beginner(01:29:18) - Building the “Tribal Training” Movement(01:38:53) - Resisting Dehumanization and Moving with Love
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Linktree (Link: https://linktr.ee/jgoldstein)
Twitter (Link: https://twitter.com/JB_Goldstein)
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Parallel Mike

In this episode ordained unity and interfaith minister Rev. Carol Saunders shares her insights on spirituality, compassion, and the intersection of human and animal welfare.
A former engineer who transitioned into spiritual leadership, Carol discusses her journey towards a spiritual vocation, emphasizing the transformative power of inner faith and unity principles. Together we explore themes such as the Christ essence within everyone, the significance of embracing one's divine nature, and the spiritual and societal implications of our relationship with animals
Carol advocates for a comprehensive spiritual approach that includes all sentient beings in our circle of compassion, which she argues is crucial for true freedom and spiritual fulfilment. The episode delves into complex topics like the challenges of traditional religious interpretations, the importance of personal spiritual awakening and how to orient ourselves towards this, and the ethical dimensions of our interactions with the natural world.
Chapters
(00:04:07) - From engineer to interfaith minister - Carol’s path to faith
(00:10:00) - Inner Christ and Christ consciousness explained
(00:14:00) - Original sin and taking responsibility for divine nature
(00:22:00) - What is God? Love, energy, and consciousness
(00:28:00) - Presence, meditation, and connecting with the divine
(00:33:00) - Free will, destiny, and listening to inner guidance
(00:37:00) - Understanding evil, shadow, and separation from light
(00:44:30) - Waking up from the control matrix and collective fear
(00:59:00) - The nature of suffering and why we experience pain
(01:08:30) - Compassion for animals, veganism, and spiritual liberation
(01:42:00) - End times, manifestation, and envisioning a free world
(02:03:00) - Closing reflections - walking the hard path
Guest Links
Whole Planet Spirituality Forum and Retreat (Link: https://thespiritualforum.org/retreat)
The Spiritual Forum Podcast (Link: https://thespiritualforum.org/podcast)
YouTube Channel (Link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBwtIL7fj92Nwgyn3taDI4Q)
Weddings and Ceremonies (Link: https://www.revcarolsaunders.com/)
Wolf and the Lamb blog (Link: https://www.wolfandthelamb.com/)
References from the episode
Do Vegans Who Get a COVID-19 Vaccine Abandon Their Moral Principles? Yes — and No. [Gary Francione] (Link: https://tinyurl.com/5n866949)
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Parallel Mike

In this episode, I delve into the world of Bitcoin and privacy with expert Matt Odell. We touch on Odell's personal journey towards Bitcoin, his philosophical stance on its role in society, and the potential future challenges and innovations on the horizon.
As a vocal advocate for privacy and decentralized technologies, Odell highlights the stark implications of privacy in our increasingly digital society, and the central role of Bitcoin within it. He elaborates on the misconceptions about Bitcoin's privacy features, its challenges, and the technical efforts required to maintain privacy and anonymity.
We also discuss the the recent alarming examples of government overreach, including the Tornado Cash developer sentencing and the Wasabi founders being charged with running an illegal money transmitter. Will self custody be the next casualty?
The topic of scaling Bitcoin is also explored, with Odell discussing the challenges of increasing Bitcoin's transaction capacity while maintaining its decentralized nature. He shares his perspective on different paths to scaling, and their potential impacts on privacy and user autonomy. His commentary extends to the role of software, emphasizing the need for software development decisions which take into consideration the reality of the privacy neglecting practices of the average Bitcoin user.
Chapters(00:02:00) - Meet Matt O'Dell: Bitcoin Advocate and Open Source Leader(00:05:00) - Purpose‑Driven Career and Ethical Investing in Bitcoin(00:08:15) - Bitcoin Origins: From 2008 Financial Crisis to 2013 Snowden Leaks(00:15:00) - Government Crackdowns on Privacy Tech and Money Transmission Laws(00:22:00) - War on Privacy and the Legal Front for Developers(00:26:30) - ETF Adoption, Self‑Custody, and the Boiling Frog Effect(00:31:30) - Can Bitcoin Be Captured or Controlled? Individual Vs System Attack(00:39:00) - Privacy Coins and Why O'Dell Still Chooses Bitcoin(00:47:30) - Ossification Debate and The Risks of Hard Forks(01:00:30) - Corporate Influence, BlackRock Threats, and Market Game Theory(01:08:00) - Corporate Adoption, MicroStrategy and the ETF Era(01:18:00) - Scaling Bitcoin Ethically Through eCash and Fedimints(01:29:00) - Nostr, Free Speech and a Decentralised Digital Future(01:37:00) - NSA Backdoors, Cryptography, and Trust in Open Source(01:44:00) - Closing Thoughts and OpenSats Support Split
Guest Links
Odell on Nostr (Link: https://tinyurl.com/5y7jb787)
Ten31 (Link: https://ten31.vc/)
OpenSats (Link: https://opensats.org/)
Citadel Dispatch (Link: https://citadeldispatch.com/)
Rabbit Hole Recap (Link: https://rhr.tv/)
References from the episode
Mathematical cryptography - Trapdoor functions [Math & Tea] (Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGmSR5jLHn0&ab_channel=MathAndTea)
What is a trapdoor function? [internet-class] (Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxLfrZrXC-g&ab_channel=internet-class)
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Parallel Mike

In this episode I reflect on taxation, its ethical implications, and the broader societal constructs of democracy and government intervention. The episode was inspired by some recent debates I had on Twitter, and a poignant poem shared by a user known as Oz, which critiques the pervasiveness of taxation.
The meditation delves into the philosophical underpinnings of taxation, questioning whether it aligns with the principles of fairness and individual rights. I also question the pervasive role that taxation and socialisation have when it comes to incentive structures, especially in relation to personal responsibility. Finally I discuss the concept of consensualism in societal organization, emphasizing the foundational ethical concept of consent and how this naturally results in anarchism, or voluntarism, as the rational ethical baseline for a just society.
Chapters
(00:00:00) - Introduction and motivation for the episode(00:00:32) - Credit to Oz and the inspiration poem(00:03:17) - Are taxes ethical or theft?(00:04:04) - The turning point: student protest and political shift(00:06:22) - Should anything truly be free?(00:07:15) - Democracy and consent in taxation(00:08:34) - Democracy versus property rights(00:10:03) - Why property rights underpin ethics(00:11:33) - Can democracy legitimize immoral acts?(00:13:20) - The ethical case for anarchism(00:14:04) - Property rights and bodily autonomy(00:16:16) - The “greater good” and dangerous ethical trade-offs(00:17:03) - Does collectivism distort responsibility?(00:19:20) - How taxation distorts market signals and incentives(00:21:21) - The case for consensualism and voluntary cooperation(00:23:24) - The projection problem behind socialism(00:24:56) - How statism weakens personal charity and meaning(00:25:45) - Closing reflection and thanks
Links
Oz on Twitter (Link: https://x.com/imabearhunter)
Original poem posted by Oz (https://x.com/imabearhunter/status/1790126782357586050)
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Parallel Mike

In this conversation with Tim Hinchliffe, editor at The Sociable, we explore the strange meeting point between ancient mythology and modern technology. From Mesopotamia to machine learning, we trace the timeless story of creators and their creations - and ask whether our pursuit of artificial intelligence might echo the myths that shaped early civilisation.
We talk about consciousness, creation, and control. What happens when the created begins to reflect its creator? Are we repeating cosmic stories written thousands of years ago, or writing something entirely new?
From the Law of One to Neuralink, from gods to algorithms, Tim and I explore how humanity’s oldest questions are resurfacing through silicon and code. This is not just a conversation about technology - it’s a conversation about what it means to be human, and how close we might be to crossing a line that has always existed between life and imitation.
 
Chapters
(00:00:00) - Introduction and framing of ancient myths and AI creation(00:02:40) - Life in Colombia and reflections on post-lockdown tourism(00:07:00) - Gentrification, foreign influence, and cultural exchange(00:12:00) - Tim’s journey to Colombia and discovery of purpose through writing(00:18:00) - Ancient creation myths as blueprints for artificial intelligence(00:25:00) - Biblical symbolism and AI self-awareness(00:32:00) - Consciousness, soul, and the metaphysics of artificial life(00:40:00) - The Law of One and the evolution of planetary consciousness(00:48:00) - Lost civilisations, cyclical time, and the ages of humanity(00:55:00) - Astrology, prophecy, and humanity’s repeating patterns(01:05:00) - Mythology, creation, and the danger of ungovernable technology(01:14:00) - Parallel realities, time loops, and the nature of existence(01:21:00) - The Internet of Brains and transhumanist evolution(01:25:00) - Immortality, reincarnation, and spiritual balance between life and death(01:32:00) - Closing thoughts on cycles, consciousness, and the fight for humanity
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/TimHinchliffe
The Sociable: https://sociable.co/author/timmy/
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